Tariq Nasheed: The Darker You Are The Harder You Have To Work

Tariq Hasheed, also known as King Flex, and K-Flex, is a bestselling author, movie producer, media personality and social advocate who focuses on African-American history.

Tariq Nasheed is a bestselling author who is mostly known for his documentary film series, Hidden Colors. Though he is an advocate for Black unity, and Black empowerment, he doesn’t associate himself with the Black Lives Matter movement. He’s very busy on tour with his fourth installation of the Hidden Colors film series. However, today he made some time to give us an insight into his thinking on White supremacy, police violence and what we can do as Blacks to fight these threats to our existence.

blackmattersus.com
Thanks for agreeing to spend your time with us today. It’s a real pleasure getting to talk to you. Being so busy with your work, whenever you have free time, how do you spend it?
Tariq Nasheed
I try to spend much of my free time with my children. That’s really important. I really try to spend a lot of time with them when I have free moments. Other than that, I’m working, traveling, writing, filming, so whatever free moment I get that’s definitely with the family.
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You said in a speech that you differentiate yourself from BLM because very often it goes without saying that if you are Black, you belong to the group. Could you explain this view to us? Why do you disassociate yourself from them?
Tariq Nasheed
The thing is, with the Black Lives Matter movement, I look at it as controlled opposition. It’s controlled and funded actually by white people and now that it’s promoted by white media organizations, Black Lives Matter is being used as a code word to put all Black people in BLM and attack Black people through BLM by hiding behind an ideology, when they’re really attacking races. So the white supremacists will put all Black people in one group and say, “Hey, BLM should be a terrorist group.” Meaning all Black people should be labeled as terrorists. And I knew they were using BLM as a code from the beginning, just by the way they were promoting it so much. Another thing the white supremacists will do is they will assign Black leaders to Black people. So any random Black person, the white supremacist media will say, that’s the Black leader of Black Lives Matter, therefore the Black leader of Black people and they have a bad habit of doing that. That’s a war tactic and we have to be very clear not to fall for it. That’s why I differentiate myself from groups that the white supremacists claim that I’m in or any other Black person is in because they lie arbitrarily.
blackmattersus.com
So do you have any links with any other sort of activist movements or groups?
Tariq Nasheed
No. I just look at myself as just another victim of white supremacy. That’s my thing. I’m a person who’s trying to push against injustice. I don’t get caught up in this group and that group because we’re all victims of white supremacy and the white supremacists, they don’t click off like that. They all work as a group. So I just look at all Black or all non-white people as the same in a system of white supremacy. I don’t get into the group bank.
blackmattersus.com
You wrote and produced the film series Hidden Colors. How did you get the idea for the movie series, and what’s the main topic being discussed in these films?
Tariq Nasheed
With Hidden Colors, I wanted to do a film series that talked about our history outside of just slavery and civil rights, because so many times there are movies that talk about Black people that show us in a negative light. I took it upon myself to do a film series that told our story without us being beholden to those in the dominant society. This is why we got the money together on our own – we didn’t get any money from the dominant society – and produced Hidden Colors, telling our story from our perspective, and the film series took off.
blackmattersus.com
So how were you able to find the materials, the funds and the right people for this movie series?
Tariq Nasheed
I was going to do the film myself. It was going to be only me talking, but then I decided to get a lot of the Black scholars that I liked, like Shahrazad Ali, Dr. Frances Cress Welsing, Phil Valentine, I got these people who were under-utilized, wanted to put them on the big screen, so I just called them up. Most of them agreed, they came down – we actually put up to where they were – filmed them, put the movie out and the rest is history.
blackmattersus.com
Are you planning to have a lecture tour on it?
Tariq Nasheed
Yeah. I’m on tour now actually as we speak. I’m promoting that and a new app that we have coming up. I’m in Atlanta now, I was in Chicago a couple of days ago, a couple of days before that I was in Milwaukee, this weekend I’ll be in Cleveland, the next weekend I’ll be in Phoenix. So I’m lapping up the summer tour now, promoting the movie. Hidden Colors 4 is the number one documentary in the world right now. It’s number one on amazon and all across the board. The movie’s doing great!
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We congratulate you on this great success! People in earlier times didn’t have Internet but they always found a way to amuse themselves. You mentioned that white supremacists used to play games with Black people. Could you explain what sort of games you were talking about? How were they played?
Tariq Nasheed
In Hidden Colors 4, we talked about these little sick demonic games that they would play, like Hit the Negro. They would get poor Black people, take them to a carnival and have them stick their head in a hole so that white people could throw balls at them. That was called the African Dodger Game. Also, they would play The Battle Royal, where they would get poor Black children, blindfold them, put them in a ring and let them beat each other up. They’ve always done little sick demonic games. Do you know lynching was almost like a game to the white supremacists, seeing how many Black people they can kill with impunity? They still play that game now. They’re harming Black people calling the police saying a Black person is a threat and having that Black person killed by a race soldier. That’s now a game by the white supremacists. So those games have never stopped.
blackmattersus.com
“The darker you are, the harder you need to work.” That’s a quotation from your film. Does it work in our time as well?
Tariq Nasheed
Absolutely, it does! We still live on a racial hierarchy color code, and the darker you are, the more of a threat that the white supremacists perceive you. Even if you’re light-skinned, you’re still perceived as a threat. But the more melanin you have, the more of a threat you are perceived.
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So do you think there’s still a problem for Black people trying to get well-paid jobs or being accepted to high-paying positions?
Tariq Nasheed
Yeah, your high paying position oftentimes is contingent upon a white supremacist hiring you. They have all-white unions in this country, white-run unions, police unions and all types of vetting processes where they allow white people in and they allow a few handful of Black people in. That process never stopped. Even when it comes to owning your own business, it’s very difficult for Black people to get money from banks, whereas it’s easier for other people classified as white to get loans to start a business. So we definitely live in a system where economics are controlled by the white supremacists all across the board. Let’s look at African countries. Certain African countries, when they are tired of being run by the white supremacists and they say they want to be independent, the white supremacists will do what they did to Zimbabwe, which is put trade sanctions on them so they’ll control the economics directly or indirectly.
blackmattersus.com
On your website TariqRadio there’s a post about Alton Sterling. For us who take this police brutality issue seriously, what are the actions you think we should take?
Tariq Nasheed
Well, one thing that we have to do is, we have to have an economic base so that we can control the politicians. I noticed that a lot of times, what they do is, they go for Black people who are economically deprived. That doesn’t mean they don’t tax well-to-do and other Black people as well. We don’t have any type of group economics where we use our money to control or punish people who harm us. So we have to get into the “code” mindset where we are going to control our economics as a group and use that to control politics. That’s the most important thing we could do. Also we’re going to have to start filing civil suits on some of these police unions and some of these race soldier police officers who are killing Black people with impunity. We’ve got to stop letting the city pay off the family to be quiet and then let these cases fall out the wayside. We should run class action suits against these people to deter them from killing us like this.
blackmattersus.com
Here, I suppose you’re talking about us doing it collectively. What about individually? What can I, per se, do to help?
Tariq Nasheed
Individually, we can all abide by a code. This is how white supremacy works. This is why it’s so powerful because individual white people who choose to be white supremacists act on a code. For example, if you ask the average suspected white supremacist about the system of white supremacy, most of them will go on code and completely deny it. They’ll say, “What white supremacy?” Now that’s a code. They know how to deny things based on their own individual code which turns into a collective code.
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